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Dasavatharam-The Link between the 12th Century and 21st Century Avatars!!

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The 1st scene is perfectly connected to the climax, remember what Kamal says in the 1st scene, that he will not say “Om Nama Shivaya” , but Asin tells him to chant it , but still Kamal refuses , ( in this kamal in his story tries to tell that ) Nambi believes in his god more than anything, but Asin feels “Its ok if we change the god or chant other god’s name, its life thats most important.” Now if u see the climax its JUST OPPOSITE…. Kamal doesn’t believe in god much and values lives of people the most…. but Asin deeply believes in god and that too this dialogue comes when both Asin and Kamal’s hand is on the god which came from the sea , and it also means that they are getting united from the place they departed hundreds of years back ( Kamal and Asin).The connection between the 1st scene and the climax in the movie shows the generation circle combined with supernatural powers of GOD and destiny…..!!

Another explanation(and this is slightly far fetched— as explained earlier) is that Govind is in fact the reincaranation of Nambi. As Nambi he couldn’t protect God and died in the name of God.In order to fulfill his Karma,he is reincarnated as Govind Ramasamy who ultimately saves the world from destruction.The idol in the end somewhat hints to this theory; his story began with the idol and it ends with the idol.
As far as the connection with Nambi character and events in 12th Century goes…
The connection is based on the “Butterfly effect “.

When Govind and Andal goes to the bury the idol in the sands, Andal will stumble on a particular stone couple of times…This is the same stone as the one from 12th Century hen Kothai rips her Thaali and flings it at Kulothunga Chozan…it will end up hanging on the stone. So, the implied message here is Andal is Kothai reborn in the 21s century.
During the encounter with Santhana Bharathi in the sand quarry, it is repeat of the incident from 12th century. Instead of Kulothunga Chozhan, it is the Sand Mafia which tries to inflict damage on the land.
This movie is a brilliant juxtaposition of independent characters whose paths cross, if only briefly, which is stunning example of Chaos Theory.

The idol that is drowned in the sea along with Rangarajan in 12th century by Chozha king results in a fault being developed at the bottom of the ocean and creates tremors more than 800 years later. These tremors result in the Tsunami. This again is a classic case of Butterfly Effect wherein a seemingly inconcsequential event (the drowing of the idol) saves Tamil Nadu from being wiped out off the face of the earth.

But actually kamal has not left anything for our imagination… Explanation struck the right chord, Kamal does tell to Asin in a dialogue that idol which gets sunken back then gets struck between the tectonic plates under the sea and causes tsunami…
Many people missed this dialogue i guess. Kamal’s accent was so very perfect Tamil, that many people missed it…. Being perfect Is a Problem by Itself !!! 🙂

Although the explanation is a least possible theory, that is what “Chaos Theory” And “Butterfly Effect” are all about.
Its not just the statue that caused the tsunami, but it just started a large chain of effects which kept multiplying exponentially and finally lead to it after 800 years….!!
Why just say this concept is perfectly illogical… it is possible… thats what i have been explaining all the while !!!

The story line is that things going wrong are made to be right which involves many people and countries knowingly or unknowingly.

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Written by Sathya Narayanan

June 18, 2008 at 11:55 am

Posted in Dasavatharam, Kamal

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  1. If you thought that was brilliant, you should see Hey Ram. If you have seen Hey Ram, you should see it again. If you have seen it may times, you should see it again! Each viewing will give you new meanings like Panchatanthiram gives a new joke every time you see it.

    Just Another Blogger

    June 18, 2008 at 9:19 pm

  2. Sathya ,
    Great Job !!
    I appreciate the effort you put in explaining the intricate knots embedded in the movie which most people fail to understand. I am sure it is extremely easy for people to write wrong about the movie without understanding the crux of the movie – ‘Chaos Theory’.
    Continue the good work.

    -Lokesh

    Lokesh

    June 18, 2008 at 9:35 pm

  3. In fact, Kamal in the last scene does not notice the idol at all. It is shown only for us to make our own conclusions.
    In the dialog he asks Asin in a sarcastic manner whether God knew that this virus was going to be released and misaligned the tectonic plates millions of years ago to cause the tsunami.

    HE DOESNOT TALK ABT TH IDOL AT ALL

    see the movie properly and hear the dialog also properly then write explanation

    NuTtY

    June 19, 2008 at 1:15 pm

  4. Looks like you are an expert in dynamical systems…
    Or have you used the words like chaos theory, butterfly effect words inspired by watching some Hollywood hits and their IMDB reviews etc.?

    Ok say whatever you said is right and thats what he had in his mind when he took the movie, does that mean a layman who don’t understand chaos theory and all that crap cant appreciate the movie? or is he trying to teach dynamical systems to all those people who don’t know about it and not really interested in learning it, or was he not really bothered about all people who come to watch the movie.

    I do know some great movies have their origins in chaos theory(Jurassic park for eg) and I am not really against them. It surely had something in it for everyone. But what about this movie?

    P.S.:
    I am a great fan of Kamal and I do know some of his master pieces didn’t do well in the past and were left unappreciated by a majority of people.
    I have not seen the movie yet, and as of now I am neither against nor for the movie.
    It is just that… I find your blog intriguing.

    Jay

    June 21, 2008 at 2:50 pm

  5. @ jay . the ten roles are for the layman to enjoy even if they dont understand wht is actually meant. infact lots of movies are on chaos .. but this is the first one in indian cinema expllicitly using the chaos for the whole story…

    Sathya Narayanan

    June 21, 2008 at 4:22 pm

  6. we in our family my husband my son and me are great fans of kamal. Now iam with my son in Los Angeles, me and my son went to watch the movie before the original release , that is premier show, where only 60 people watched with us, for which we felt very sad. Mr. kamal has acted nicely and took more efforts, that no one can deny, but i expected more from him, but truly speaking i felt his previous movies like ANBE sivam, pancha thanthram, tenali, virumandi are awesome and i can consider them all his master
    pieces,compared to this movie..I hear the same comments from many here.
    But one thing i must tell here, the dalith krishna avathar and patti’s varaha avathar’s , and the ending of their relationships are real gems, really awesome. I feel now the absence of our beloved B.R. Ambedkar , sure if he happens to see this movie he might have considered kamal the great. KAMAL is “THE Great” ever, really” Ulaga Nayagan, ”

    http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/07ymYOeUtd.As1NMvHdW/

    he is! No doubt, but , i feel , he could have taken this movie even in simple form so that even layman can better understand the movie, and the concepts and high ideas and ideologies behind the story.
    More over the dialogs are majority in English, i felt no need of English subtitles.Everybody praised the Telugu guy, in this one role surely kamal achieved his desired real results. Hats of to him, really I salute my beloved KAMAL. Great hugs to him.

    Avathar singh danced nicely with his partner, but , it is my opinion that he could have slow down his steps, being a cancer patient , it is unnatural to dance with such high speed, it is really giving the cinematic touch.He could have avoided that.

    MY earnest request to all my readers, is to tell and encourage every known people to view this movie so that , we can make strong the desire of getting him OSCAR AWARD, which will bring all of his fans great honour., to be called his beloved fans. I feel it is needless to comment on his splendid performance of Rangaranjan nambi.Last but not the least, he could have taken some more efforts into the koorma avathar and vamana avathar , the logic behind them is not satisfactory to my knowledge and opinion. Songs and other techonologies used are lovely,one must appreciate them. Trust and hope, in future , Kamal must give more beautiful movie than this .Understanding this chaos theory with Indian karma through ten roles ,is very new to this field, which every one must accept.
    JAI HIND.

    prasanna santhi sankaran

    June 21, 2008 at 11:46 pm

  7. Hi Sathya,

    I don’t quite agree with your explanations.

    Reasons
    1.Govind may be a reincarnation of Nambi, But how is that Govind came to know about it? and narrated those incidents took that place in 12th century so clearly. There were no scenes in the movie depicting that he realized that he was born as Nambi in the 12th century. Had this point been the connection between the first and last scene, then Govind narrating it on stage becomes highly illogical…It’s only for the commercial values of the movie, that kamal and asin played both roles…

    2.Please note that the drowning of the idol did not cause Tsunami, it was the earthquake that had the epicenter in Indonesia (no where near where the idol was drowned) caused it. So this logic is also wrong…

    The only good point I see is that this movie has opened up lot of scope for debating…..

    Shriram

    June 23, 2008 at 3:40 pm

  8. The explanation regarding the Tsunami is inaccurate wide and far, the fault line under ocean floor which is the epicenter of 2005 Tsunami is near Indonesia not few miles off coast of Tamil Nadu where the dumped Perumal Idol would have been settled. I agree that screenplay has been well spun in this movie and deserves appreciation but such a gross exaggeration would undermine your actual message.

    Saravana

    June 24, 2008 at 12:50 am

  9. ohh satya really a gr8 job.
    shows hw much of interest n hard work u hav put it …
    keeeeeeep goin satya!!! 🙂

    Namzz venkat

    June 27, 2008 at 10:59 am

  10. @ Namzzz the hard work was kamal’s not mine

    Sathya Narayanan

    June 27, 2008 at 11:01 am

  11. i meant the blog s work dumbo hehe 😉

    Namzz venkat

    June 27, 2008 at 11:10 am

  12. HAI SATHYA,

    U are too good , your comment reply,

    Namzzz the hard work was kamal’s not mine”

    makes me tell this. sorry , in my review , i forgot to praise your hard work , it is very nice, do continue your service like this ever, all the best. YOURS IS A WONDERFUL JOB.THANKS.

    prasanna santhi sankaran

    June 28, 2008 at 1:05 pm


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